Stakeholder consultations on Surrey Rapid Transit study

TransLink is holding a series of consultations to gather stakeholder opinion on the future of rapid transit in Surrey and Langley. The goal of the study is to determine the corridors and technologies for rapid transit in the South Fraser area.

Ironically enough, despite a commitment to a “comprehensive and open process”, the following meetings have not been posted on TransLink’s website. How they determine who is a stakeholder and who is not is unknown. I for one believe we are all stakeholders in our collective future, and thus am posting the information below.

Be sure to drop in and let your voice be heard on the future of rapid transit in our region.

Thursday, March 11

6:30p to 8p

Cloverdale BIA Boardroom

#202 17687 56A Ave

Monday, March 15

10a to 11:30a

Langley City Hall CKF Room

20399 Douglas Crescent

Wednesday, March 17

6:30p to 8p

Kwantlen University Surrey Campus Room 1240 Cedar Building

12666 72 Ave

Thursday, March 18

2p to 3:30p

South Surrey Rec Centre

14601 20th Ave

Tuesday, March 23

1p to 2:30p

Guildford Rec Centre

15105 105th Ave

Thursday, March 25

2p to 3:30p

Fleetwood Community Centre Boardroom

15996 84th Ave

Tuesday, March 30

3p to 4:30p

Downtown Surrey BIA

#300 10524 King George

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2 Responses to Stakeholder consultations on Surrey Rapid Transit study

  1. Hi Paul,

    I've talked to our public consultation team, and I just wanted to drop you a note to answer your question on how we determine stakeholders, and why all the meeting times were not really distributed widely.

    Basically, we're at the very start of the large and complex study on Surrey rapid transit, and consultation with a smaller “stakeholder” group is an early and important stage of the much larger process.

    First, stakeholders are basically specialized groups or individuals who are already thinking in some way about the issues involved in the study. We find them through previous consultations we've done, and we ask the municipalities to pass along contacts if they know of anyone. (And at every stakeholder meeting, we ask if there's anyone we think should be included.)

    The consultation with these stakeholders is important, because we're so early in the consultation process that we have no strong material to present to the general public for discussion. We are looking for these stakeholders to narrow down key discussion points, issues, and more, so the general public will then have some meatier concepts and questions to discuss at a later stage.

    The stakeholders' input is not written in stone, guaranteed to be delivered, or privileged higher than input from the greater public. It just provides direction for the discussion for the general public, and the public is free to criticize, disregard, and remold any of the concepts or issues that the stakeholder group has provided. Both opinions ultimately provide equal weight in the discussion.

    We do it this way this because it's frustrating for the general public go to a feedback session where there is absolutely no direction for discussion. It's also hard to get meaningful feedback when there is no structure for a discussion.

    An example that might illustrate this is the ongoing consultation on a regional bike strategy. In our early stakeholder discussion, many stakeholders came from the cycling community, as well as institutions like UBC and more. In these early discussions, the stakeholders can talk about their aims for a bike strategy and what they are concerned about. Then we will eventually be able to go out with a bike strategy to the wider public that they can discuss and offer feedback on, informed by the insight of the bike community but not ultimately decided by them.

    And these discussion tend to be smaller because the stakeholder groups are a smaller group than the entire public at large. That's why the meeting times are not widely distributed—-because otherwise then the public will end up at a meeting where there is hardly any structure and few meaty concepts to discuss.

    Anyway, for anyone who considers themselves a stakeholder, you are more than welcome at the consultations! Just know that the venues have limited room, as these are meant to be smaller discussions, and you must RSVP to Vincent Gonsalves at vincent.gonsalves@translink.ca to ensure you can attend.

    Hope this helps!

    Jhenifer

  2. Hi Paul,

    I've talked to our public consultation team, and I just wanted to drop you a note to answer your question on how we determine stakeholders, and why all the meeting times were not really distributed widely.

    Basically, we're at the very start of the large and complex study on Surrey rapid transit, and consultation with a smaller “stakeholder” group is an early and important stage of the much larger process.

    First, stakeholders are basically specialized groups or individuals who are already thinking in some way about the issues involved in the study. We find them through previous consultations we've done, and we ask the municipalities to pass along contacts if they know of anyone. (And at every stakeholder meeting, we ask if there's anyone we think should be included.)

    The consultation with these stakeholders is important, because we're so early in the consultation process that we have no strong material to present to the general public for discussion. We are looking for these stakeholders to narrow down key discussion points, issues, and more, so the general public will then have some meatier concepts and questions to discuss at a later stage.

    The stakeholders' input is not written in stone, guaranteed to be delivered, or privileged higher than input from the greater public. It just provides direction for the discussion for the general public, and the public is free to criticize, disregard, and remold any of the concepts or issues that the stakeholder group has provided. Both opinions ultimately provide equal weight in the discussion.

    We do it this way this because it's frustrating for the general public go to a feedback session where there is absolutely no direction for discussion. It's also hard to get meaningful feedback when there is no structure for a discussion.

    An example that might illustrate this is the ongoing consultation on a regional bike strategy. In our early stakeholder discussion, many stakeholders came from the cycling community, as well as institutions like UBC and more. In these early discussions, the stakeholders can talk about their aims for a bike strategy and what they are concerned about. Then we will eventually be able to go out with a bike strategy to the wider public that they can discuss and offer feedback on, informed by the insight of the bike community but not ultimately decided by them.

    And these discussion tend to be smaller because the stakeholder groups are a smaller group than the entire public at large. That's why the meeting times are not widely distributed—-because otherwise then the public will end up at a meeting where there is hardly any structure and few meaty concepts to discuss.

    Anyway, for anyone who considers themselves a stakeholder, you are more than welcome at the consultations! Just know that the venues have limited room, as these are meant to be smaller discussions, and you must RSVP to Vincent Gonsalves at vincent.gonsalves@translink.ca to ensure you can attend.

    Hope this helps!

    Jhenifer